Comments on: Grouping of runners: EOC Long Qual

By: T

Thu, 29 May 2008 11:28:30 +0000

Martin, thanks for this very interestig analysis!

By: Martin Lerjen

Martin Lerjen — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:49:23 +0000

Okay. Another one… just playing. The Ranking of Longest mutual influence* during todays long distance final:

1. Olson & Haldin 84 Min.
2. Smola & Millinger 64 Min.
3. Kerschbaumer & Letho 63.5 Min.
4. Tsvetkov & Efimov 53 Min.
5. Wingstedt & Lucan 51 Min.
6. Teich & Karklins 46 Min.
7. Tsvetkov & Efimov & Nikolov 45 Min.
8. Hubmann & Johansson 42 Min.
9. Prochazka & Mrazek & Breitschädel 37 Min.
10.Osterbo & Teich & Karklins 36 Min.
11.Lakanen & Lundanes 35 Min.
12.Schneider & Bertuks 34 Min.
13.Bortnik & Dlabaja 32 Min.
13.Gristwood & Kostylev 32 Min.
13.Troeng & Weltzien 32 Min.
16.Smola & Osterbo & Teich & Millinger & Karklins 31 Min.
17. Tsetkov & Efimov & Nikolov & Mihalkin 20 Min.
18.Krumins & Haldin & Olsen 10 Min.
19.Johnson & Schneider 8 Min.
…
…
No Ranked: Skjeset, Tervo, Lind, Sadeckas, Merz, Rollier, Ikonen, Norberg, Kärner and others.

*Punching every control not more than 15 seconds apart

By: Martin Lerjen

Martin Lerjen — Wed, 28 May 2008 16:08:14 +0000

At the Mens Top Ten today… (me looking at the results)

1. Tsvetkov: Together with Efimov (10.) since 11th control, together with Nikolov since 15th control, with Mihalkin since 22nd Control.
2. Hubmann: First contact with Johannson (5.) at the 8th control, running togehter with Johannson from the 16th control
3. Wingstedt: Some not very cooperative contacts with Wickholm. Together with Lucan (14.) from the 13th control (but Lucan always behind)
4. Merz: Ran the whole thing alone
5. Johannson: catched up by Hubmann at 16th
6. Rollier: Ran the whole thing alone
7. Bertuks: Together with Schneider (23.) from the 19th
8. Weltzien: Contacts with Troeng from the 12th, together with Troeng from 16th to 25th
9. Ikonen: with Öhlund (23.) 3rd to 6th control, and 16th to 19th, else alone.
10. Efimov, see Tsvetkov (1.)

Some comments to this:
1) 16th control is at the middle of the race, if two runners catch up there, they are running half the race together
2) I doubt that the competition is fair. See the case of Merz, Rollier and Wingsted (somehow) all considered running alone: Tsvetkov makes the difference from the moment he runs with Efimov. Hubmann and Johannson make the difference from the moment they run together.

So.I have nothing against Tsvetkov, he is the winner. Let’s just put some effort in avoiding that amount of mutual influencing among the top ten of a Championchip.

By: Jan Kocbach

Jan Kocbach — Wed, 28 May 2008 09:50:10 +0000

AL: Use of a separation method in the qualifiers (not necessarily butterflies though) is an interesting thought.

-: The numbers in the boxes are only there to indicate which runners have been together – a numbering of each pack so to say.