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	<title>Comments on: Be part of the action: Set up your JWOC Team!</title>
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		<title>By: Jan Kocbach</title>
		<link>http://news.worldofo.com/2009/07/03/be-part-of-the-action-set-up-your-jwoc-team/comment-page-1/#comment-71175</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Kocbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Uils: Thanks! Of course you are right - I hadn&#039;t spotted that. Not it is fixed. As I wrote earlier, the Fantasy JWOC was set up in an hour a late evening :)

@MN: The motivation for not using a straightforward system just for the JWOC is to let people choose the runners they are familiar with from their own country - making it a bit more personal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Uils: Thanks! Of course you are right &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t spotted that. Not it is fixed. As I wrote earlier, the Fantasy JWOC was set up in an hour a late evening :)</p>
<p>@MN: The motivation for not using a straightforward system just for the JWOC is to let people choose the runners they are familiar with from their own country &#8211; making it a bit more personal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time schedule here seems to be incorrect. According to the JWOC&#039;s website, the sprint is already on July 6 (not 7), the long on July 7 (not 8), and the middle final on July 10 (ok)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time schedule here seems to be incorrect. According to the JWOC&#8217;s website, the sprint is already on July 6 (not 7), the long on July 7 (not 8), and the middle final on July 10 (ok)!</p>
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		<title>By: MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why have &quot;outsiders&quot; getting extra points. You don&#039;t know who other people are going to pick, so you don&#039;t even have control over whether the people you pick are going to actually be counting as outsiders.

Why not have a straight forward system. Pick a team, you get the income your runners earn. That&#039;s it. If two people have exactly the same team then they get exactly the same (full) income, no dividing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why have &#8220;outsiders&#8221; getting extra points. You don&#8217;t know who other people are going to pick, so you don&#8217;t even have control over whether the people you pick are going to actually be counting as outsiders.</p>
<p>Why not have a straight forward system. Pick a team, you get the income your runners earn. That&#8217;s it. If two people have exactly the same team then they get exactly the same (full) income, no dividing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Kocbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Kocbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ulis: I agree that the element of luck is maybe too high the way it is set up now. Part of the reason for setting it up this way for the JWOC, is to let people choose the runners they are familiar with from their own country - making it a bit more personal. 

I like your suggestion with doubling the points earned by outsiders, i.e. runners not among the 15 most popular runners. You could even have a third category with runners chosen by only one or two managers who get their points tripled. 

It could be that this is a better way to do it than my original suggestion. Does anybody else have any input regarding the rules for the Fantasy JWOC? Please add a comment here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ulis: I agree that the element of luck is maybe too high the way it is set up now. Part of the reason for setting it up this way for the JWOC, is to let people choose the runners they are familiar with from their own country &#8211; making it a bit more personal. </p>
<p>I like your suggestion with doubling the points earned by outsiders, i.e. runners not among the 15 most popular runners. You could even have a third category with runners chosen by only one or two managers who get their points tripled. </p>
<p>It could be that this is a better way to do it than my original suggestion. Does anybody else have any input regarding the rules for the Fantasy JWOC? Please add a comment here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The challenge of the game to proove your skill in picking the right people. There is already quite some element of luck in it. It will be even more difficult at juniors level, as the runners are less well known. To my opinion, the proposed income sharing involves too much luck, and lessens the attractiveness of the game. 

It is true, in the fantasy world cup, more than 80% of the managers picked Georgiou, Hubmann, and Kauppi (third race). But the real difference in points came from selecting the remainder of the team. Only half the managers had chosen top finishers such as Öberg, Andersson, or Nordberg, and just 5% picked the winner Carl Waaler Kaas.

In order to promote the selection of outsiders, you could double the points earned by outsiders - defined as runners chosen by less than 10% of the team managers. &#039;Less than 10%&#039; is equivalent to &#039;not among the 15 most popular&#039; runners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge of the game to proove your skill in picking the right people. There is already quite some element of luck in it. It will be even more difficult at juniors level, as the runners are less well known. To my opinion, the proposed income sharing involves too much luck, and lessens the attractiveness of the game. </p>
<p>It is true, in the fantasy world cup, more than 80% of the managers picked Georgiou, Hubmann, and Kauppi (third race). But the real difference in points came from selecting the remainder of the team. Only half the managers had chosen top finishers such as Öberg, Andersson, or Nordberg, and just 5% picked the winner Carl Waaler Kaas.</p>
<p>In order to promote the selection of outsiders, you could double the points earned by outsiders &#8211; defined as runners chosen by less than 10% of the team managers. &#8216;Less than 10%&#8217; is equivalent to &#8216;not among the 15 most popular&#8217; runners.</p>
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