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	<title>Comments on: EOC Middle: Maps, Results and GPS-fun</title>
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		<title>By: Samo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2014 22:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get it. Are you saying..
a)that there was a protest from Norwegian team to disq. Irina?
b)that we have a rule which allowed Irina (runner) to fill a protest instead of team leader and disq. herself without any other official protest? 
c)that the jury decided to disq. her based on GPS track and Russian team agreed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Are you saying..<br />
a)that there was a protest from Norwegian team to disq. Irina?<br />
b)that we have a rule which allowed Irina (runner) to fill a protest instead of team leader and disq. herself without any other official protest?<br />
c)that the jury decided to disq. her based on GPS track and Russian team agreed?</p>
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		<title>By: hatifnatter</title>
		<link>http://news.worldofo.com/2014/04/14/eoc-middle-maps-and-results-3/#comment-108849</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not know any race voided because of anything like this. The main problem is that all the organisers, team officials, jury members and IOF controllers have very vague ideas what the rules actually say. And do not want to know more. You can see it even in this case -- the norwegian girl forced Irina to disqualify herself and all the Russian team leaders together with the jury agreed that it should be like this. As far as I see, no one even tried to read the rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know any race voided because of anything like this. The main problem is that all the organisers, team officials, jury members and IOF controllers have very vague ideas what the rules actually say. And do not want to know more. You can see it even in this case &#8212; the norwegian girl forced Irina to disqualify herself and all the Russian team leaders together with the jury agreed that it should be like this. As far as I see, no one even tried to read the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Samo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so there is a ISOM solution which can be applied but they didn&#039;t do it properly. This mistake could be seen in the same way as poorly mapped area IMO. More practicable solution would probably be to define high fence as object &quot;forbidden to cross&quot; no matter if ISSOM say differently. Do you know of any race with same mistake and the race was voided?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so there is a ISOM solution which can be applied but they didn&#8217;t do it properly. This mistake could be seen in the same way as poorly mapped area IMO. More practicable solution would probably be to define high fence as object &#8220;forbidden to cross&#8221; no matter if ISSOM say differently. Do you know of any race with same mistake and the race was voided?</p>
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		<title>By: hatifnatter</title>
		<link>http://news.worldofo.com/2014/04/14/eoc-middle-maps-and-results-3/#comment-108836</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the fence with two ticks is just a &quot;high fence (more than 1.5 m)&quot;. But it is allowed to jump over it, at least never forbidden in rules. Moreover, on the team leaders meeting it was explicitly said that such fences are allowed to jump over, and quite many runners jumped over them on the way to the last control. 

If the organisers wanted to mark some particular fence as &quot;forbidden to cross&quot; there is a specifically mentioned way to do it in ISOM -- they just needed to highlight it with thick purple line. Plus, mark a passage in the allowed place. However, doing the second without doing the first does not make any sense, very confusing and definitely does not forbid anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the fence with two ticks is just a &#8220;high fence (more than 1.5 m)&#8221;. But it is allowed to jump over it, at least never forbidden in rules. Moreover, on the team leaders meeting it was explicitly said that such fences are allowed to jump over, and quite many runners jumped over them on the way to the last control. </p>
<p>If the organisers wanted to mark some particular fence as &#8220;forbidden to cross&#8221; there is a specifically mentioned way to do it in ISOM &#8212; they just needed to highlight it with thick purple line. Plus, mark a passage in the allowed place. However, doing the second without doing the first does not make any sense, very confusing and definitely does not forbid anything.</p>
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