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	<title>Comments on: WOC Middle Men 2016: BIG GPS &amp; Splits analysis</title>
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		<title>By: Terje Wiig Mathisen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terje Wiig Mathisen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As IvarM notes the very wide range for middle green is a real mapping problem!

In an ideal world each vegetation grade would have the same relative distance from the previous, i.e. a geometric scale.

I started writing a long article here but decided to delete it: The key idea is that we want to minimize the ratio from slowest to fastest running that is covered by a single shade, the factor of 3X for the current Middle Green is simply too large!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As IvarM notes the very wide range for middle green is a real mapping problem!</p>
<p>In an ideal world each vegetation grade would have the same relative distance from the previous, i.e. a geometric scale.</p>
<p>I started writing a long article here but decided to delete it: The key idea is that we want to minimize the ratio from slowest to fastest running that is covered by a single shade, the factor of 3X for the current Middle Green is simply too large!</p>
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		<title>By: hatifnatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see your point, but in fact it is not reduced *by* 20-60%, but reduced *to* 20-60% (of the speed in the typical runnable forest), which makes some difference. In particular, it means that on the road it should be at least &quot;almost twice&quot; faster than in middle green. I have not been in the forest, but what I see on GPS, on the way to 9 it was definitely not twice slower in the green than on the road. 

Anyway, it is probably more the question of the planning than mapmaking -- ideally you should not plan legs such that a runner cannot predict the terrain. At least, you should avoid as much as possible such situations when it can influence the results. That is why leg 16-17 is just rubbish (provided they were not given any additional information beforehand).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point, but in fact it is not reduced *by* 20-60%, but reduced *to* 20-60% (of the speed in the typical runnable forest), which makes some difference. In particular, it means that on the road it should be at least &#8220;almost twice&#8221; faster than in middle green. I have not been in the forest, but what I see on GPS, on the way to 9 it was definitely not twice slower in the green than on the road. </p>
<p>Anyway, it is probably more the question of the planning than mapmaking &#8212; ideally you should not plan legs such that a runner cannot predict the terrain. At least, you should avoid as much as possible such situations when it can influence the results. That is why leg 16-17 is just rubbish (provided they were not given any additional information beforehand).</p>
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		<title>By: IvarM</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For &quot;middle green&quot; the runnability is reduced by 20-60 %, so it is already a big unpredictability there, even when the mapmaking is according to ISOM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8220;middle green&#8221; the runnability is reduced by 20-60 %, so it is already a big unpredictability there, even when the mapmaking is according to ISOM.</p>
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		<title>By: hatifnatter</title>
		<link>http://news.worldofo.com/2016/08/24/woc-middle-men-2016-big-gps-splits-analysis/#comment-125286</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, basically, the inconsistency in the mapmaking crucially influenced the results. Crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, basically, the inconsistency in the mapmaking crucially influenced the results. Crap.</p>
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