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	<title>Comments on: JEC 2018: Maps and Results</title>
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		<title>By: Blair Trewin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Trewin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2018 22:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something to note is that the JEC isn&#039;t an IOF event, so it won&#039;t necessarily have taken place under IOF competition rules (which explicitly forbid declaring the result based on an intermediate control as was done here). I&#039;m not actually sure who the sanctioning body is for JEC, but would have thought that unless a decision has been taken to do otherwise, the default rules would be the Swiss national ones. 

Personally, my position would have been to disqualify the offending competitors if they could be identified with confidence - by the time you get to a junior national team, it&#039;s reasonable to expect you to know the rules - and to void the race if the offending competitors could not be identified. It&#039;s a common misconception that only a jury can void a race - under the IOF rules (26.13), in fact, the organisers are required to do so if circumstances have risen which make the race significantly unfair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something to note is that the JEC isn&#8217;t an IOF event, so it won&#8217;t necessarily have taken place under IOF competition rules (which explicitly forbid declaring the result based on an intermediate control as was done here). I&#8217;m not actually sure who the sanctioning body is for JEC, but would have thought that unless a decision has been taken to do otherwise, the default rules would be the Swiss national ones. </p>
<p>Personally, my position would have been to disqualify the offending competitors if they could be identified with confidence &#8211; by the time you get to a junior national team, it&#8217;s reasonable to expect you to know the rules &#8211; and to void the race if the offending competitors could not be identified. It&#8217;s a common misconception that only a jury can void a race &#8211; under the IOF rules (26.13), in fact, the organisers are required to do so if circumstances have risen which make the race significantly unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: Aleksandr Alekseyonok</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aleksandr Alekseyonok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tahk you, Cristian for your tips. 
But what about list of the participants noticed  in the OOB by the course setter?
http://guedels.ch/karten/show_map.php?user=Térence&amp;map=2087
This list included 73 of 246 runners. 
Is this a sufficient basis for disqualification. Suppose there are not all participants  who was in OOB, but there are many leaders and final results could be much fairer than there are now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tahk you, Cristian for your tips.<br />
But what about list of the participants noticed  in the OOB by the course setter?<br />
<a href="http://guedels.ch/karten/show_map.php?user=Térence&#038;map=2087" rel="nofollow">http://guedels.ch/karten/show_map.php?user=Térence&#038;map=2087</a><br />
This list included 73 of 246 runners.<br />
Is this a sufficient basis for disqualification. Suppose there are not all participants  who was in OOB, but there are many leaders and final results could be much fairer than there are now.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No jury decisions were taken, simply beacause there has not been complaints by any team.
The coaches have been called (I was among them), and the situation explained by the race director.
For some it was clear that the route was not allowed, for someone else it was not.
I asked if that route was surveilled, and the race director said it was not. So, it was impossible to disqualify all runners, but only base the disq. on gps, for those 15 of 60 who run with gps.
In the end all the coaches agreed to neutralize the race at the second last control, instead of having a void competition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No jury decisions were taken, simply beacause there has not been complaints by any team.<br />
The coaches have been called (I was among them), and the situation explained by the race director.<br />
For some it was clear that the route was not allowed, for someone else it was not.<br />
I asked if that route was surveilled, and the race director said it was not. So, it was impossible to disqualify all runners, but only base the disq. on gps, for those 15 of 60 who run with gps.<br />
In the end all the coaches agreed to neutralize the race at the second last control, instead of having a void competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Axel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Magne! I wasn‘t fully aware of the rules for the gaps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Magne! I wasn‘t fully aware of the rules for the gaps.</p>
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