Comments on: Easter Orienteering: Maps and Results

By: Vinogradov Mike

Vinogradov Mike — Sat, 11 Apr 2015 02:53:29 +0000

@Samo: I agree with you. I did not know about such system in tennis. But it sounds rational! Can you right a few words about possible solution in Orienteering, please? I will published in http://vinogradovcoach.blogspot.ru/ or may be Jan will published in World of O.

@Jan: What do you think?

If we start discussion then we will have a chance to promote this idea to IOF. I think it is not so difficult to implement some-kind of online score system inot Eventor. And I think that it should be helpful for Orienteering’s promotion.

By: Samo

Samo — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:00:16 +0000

Exactly! You are talking about levels. In tennis you know exactly how many points each event is worth. WR failed here. There is a fixed winner points for WOC, WC and ROC no matter who enter the event and a scale from 800-1400 for all other events. This is a main problem because no one can predict the outcome. A good system has a fixed table for all levels or statistical formula for all levels as we had in old system. As it stands today we have two different system. The easy solution would be to have also fixed winner points for all local WR events. Like in tennis.

Let’s say a basic local WR event is worth 1300 points and if organizer has a prize money up to 1000 eur for best six runners this local event would be worth 1350 and with even better prize money this local event could rise its points up to WOC level 1500 points. This would be transparent system for organizer and also for runners and good for promotion of sport.

By: Vinogradov Mike

Vinogradov Mike — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:21:39 +0000

Samo! Actually it is possible to improve your position in strong WRE. In fact most tricky thing is that it is impossible to identify strong WRE. Sometimes runners earn 1400 for victory, sometimes even with huge margin winner gets just 1200-1300. Runners got small points this year from Portuguse WRE. In my opinion it is necessary to have on-line table with potential WRE points in IOF eventor: when some strong runner is making entry then every one can see new estimations about WRE-points. Then runners can prioritize limited resources for strong WRE. Otherwise it is not clear about any competitions: are Silva League-2015 (Danish Spring/POM/JK/etc.) gonna be strong enough to earn 1400 points or not?..

By: Samo

Samo — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:02:39 +0000

But you can get high points only at few events per year. Most of the WRE events are local event where points are very low and have no meaning. From IOF perspective forcing runners to hunt WR points should not be the main objective of WR or the only one advantage left within the system. In my opinion it is also wrong that WR points has so big importance on WOC starting list if we all know that WCup and WR events are not a priority events among the majority of best athletes. WOC starting list could be based also on coutry quotas based on previous WOCs. It would be more fair to all who cant participate at these high points events through the year and the system would be align with the WOC qualification system. WR should be about better promotion of sport and athletes.