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World of O Fantasy JWOC will give you another reason to follow the JWOC competitions the coming week. After several requests, I decided to make a quick clone of the WoO Fantasy World Cup – but with a twist to the calculation of points. In the Fantasy JWOC you should have the outsiders on your Team – and not necessarily the favourites. And everything depends on what the other managers do … Thus there will be an element of gambling in setting up your team.
Rules may change until Sunday
A suggested set of rules for the Fantasy JWOC is given below. Please add a comment if you have a suggestion for a change in the rules. All suggestions are considered – and if changes are made, the final rules will be posted Sunday evening at 20:00 CET.
- Browse all the JWOC Teams here. Note! A few teams/runners are missing. Will be updated as soon as I have them.
- Set up your team here. Note! A few teams/runners are missing. Will be updated as soon as I have them. Note also that the rules for calculation of income may change until Sunday evening at 20:00 CET.
- JWOC 2009 webpage
- JWOC Training preview at Worldofo.com
- JWOC preview at Ultimate Orienteering
The Fantasy JWOC is a ‘for-fun’ competition set up quickly. In addition, the names for JWOC runners are not always written the same way, so except to see some errors in point calculations etc. Take it as it is – and enjoy!
Fantasy JWOC Rules
(Note! These rules have been updated July 5th 20:00 CET)
Choose a Team consisting of 10 runners (you can choose arbitrary number of men/women) by dragging runners from the left column to the right column. You may have more than 10 runners in the right column, but only the 10 first count as your team and will give you income.
Income is calculated in the following way:
- For each JWOC race, your income is calculated based on the income of the 10 runners in your team. The income a runner gives you is calculated using the following formulas (note! virtual money:) :
- The best runner in each race earns 1.000.000 Euros for his managers, second position gets 800.000 Euros, third position 600.000 Euros, 4. place -> 500.000 Euros, 5. place -> 450.000 Euros, 6. place -> 400.000 Euros, 7. place -> 370.000 Euros, 8. place -> 350.000 Euros, 9. place -> 330.000 Euros, 10. place -> 310.000 Euros, 11. place -> 300.000 Euros, 12. place -> 290.000 Euros, 13. place -> 280.000 Euros …, 40. place -> 10.000 Euros.
- If two runners share a position, both earn the same sum
- Runners who are ‘outsiders’ earns his managers twice the income – outsiders being defined by not being among the 15 most popular runners among the managers.
- Runners who are chosen by two managers or less, earn their managers three times the income.
- Example: Morten Jarvis Westergåd is chosen by only two managers, and gets a 13th place. Each manager will then earn 280.000 Euros x 3 = 840.000 Euros. Henrik Sulz is chosen by 5 managers, but is not among the 15 most popular. He gets 10th place, and thus each manager with Henrik in his team will earn 310.000 Euros x 2 = 620.000 Euros.
- Bonus: In each JWOC race, you get a bonus of 50% of the income for the runner who is on the top of your team-list. Another 25% bonus for the runner on second place on your team-list, and yet another 10% bonus for the runner who is number three on your team-list
- All JWOC races count in the total figure
- You may drag as many runners over to your team in the right column as you want, but only the 10 topmost runners count in your sum
- You can change which runners are in your team between each race
- Last chance to change your team ahead of each JWOC race is given in the overview table here.
- Note! This is a very experimental ‘for-fun’ service, and errors may (and will) occur.
- You may change your team ahead of each competition.
- Income calculation will be done as soon as possible after each competition (when official results are available) – but there might be delays
The challenge of the game to proove your skill in picking the right people. There is already quite some element of luck in it. It will be even more difficult at juniors level, as the runners are less well known. To my opinion, the proposed income sharing involves too much luck, and lessens the attractiveness of the game.
It is true, in the fantasy world cup, more than 80% of the managers picked Georgiou, Hubmann, and Kauppi (third race). But the real difference in points came from selecting the remainder of the team. Only half the managers had chosen top finishers such as Öberg, Andersson, or Nordberg, and just 5% picked the winner Carl Waaler Kaas.
In order to promote the selection of outsiders, you could double the points earned by outsiders – defined as runners chosen by less than 10% of the team managers. ‘Less than 10%’ is equivalent to ‘not among the 15 most popular’ runners.
@Ulis: I agree that the element of luck is maybe too high the way it is set up now. Part of the reason for setting it up this way for the JWOC, is to let people choose the runners they are familiar with from their own country – making it a bit more personal.
I like your suggestion with doubling the points earned by outsiders, i.e. runners not among the 15 most popular runners. You could even have a third category with runners chosen by only one or two managers who get their points tripled.
It could be that this is a better way to do it than my original suggestion. Does anybody else have any input regarding the rules for the Fantasy JWOC? Please add a comment here.
Why have “outsiders” getting extra points. You don’t know who other people are going to pick, so you don’t even have control over whether the people you pick are going to actually be counting as outsiders.
Why not have a straight forward system. Pick a team, you get the income your runners earn. That’s it. If two people have exactly the same team then they get exactly the same (full) income, no dividing it.
The time schedule here seems to be incorrect. According to the JWOC’s website, the sprint is already on July 6 (not 7), the long on July 7 (not 8), and the middle final on July 10 (ok)!
@Uils: Thanks! Of course you are right – I hadn’t spotted that. Not it is fixed. As I wrote earlier, the Fantasy JWOC was set up in an hour a late evening :)
@MN: The motivation for not using a straightforward system just for the JWOC is to let people choose the runners they are familiar with from their own country – making it a bit more personal.