Tip 10Mila Results – Win Prizes worth 100+ Euros

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 28 Apr 2011@22:00

Click to set up your 10Mila 2011 tipsWho will be the top teams in 10Mila 2011? Submit your tip for the results in 10Mila 2011 here, and win prizes worth more than 100 Euros (2 transferable starts for the complete OOCup 2011) if you can set up the best predictions! Requested are tips for the Top 5 men and women teams, and intermediate results after the 1st leg and “Långa natten”.

Can Kalevan Rasti repeat their 2010 win in the mens class? In 2010 the margin down to Kristiansand OK was more than 6 minutes. Can Anton Sjökvist of Stora Tuna win the first leg again? Can IFK Lidingö take another win in the womens class? And is Ulricehamn ready for another first leg victory?

About 10Mila Tips 2011 Sponsor: OOCup

OOCup is a popular Slovenian event which is famous for its interesting karst orienteering and great nature. OOCup 2011 is organized from July 22th until July 26th. See maps from some of the terrains of OOCup 2011 in omaps.worldofo.com for example from Xtremor 2009 here, here or here.

10Mila 2011: All you need to know!

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 28 Apr 2011@8:00


10MILA countdown: Two days left until one of the main highlights of the spring season for an orienteer: 10MILA. World of O will of course follow 10Mila all night on the LiveBlog – I hope to see many of you there!

Countless hours of 10Mila 2011 Web TV with GPS tracking (will set you back 90 SEK = about 10 Euros) is offered. There is also free audio available (speaker sound) and live results available. Start is at 14:30 CET Saturday April 30th for the women and 21:30 CET Saturday 30th for the men.

As always in 10Mila, the women run 5 legs and the men run 10 legs. The women run from 4.7 km (third leg, ungaffled) to 9.5 legs (last leg). All legs except for the third leg are gaffled. The men run from 7.2 km (7th leg, ungaffled) to 16.5 km (last leg, gaffled and 4th leg, ungaffled). All legs except for the 4th leg (”Långa natten” – the long night) and the 7th leg are ungaffled. The 5 first leg are run in darkness – the 6th and 7th in dawn, and the three last legs in daylight.

New! The 10Mila Tip 2011!

Click to set up your 10Mila 2011 tips
Who will be the top teams in 10Mila 2011? Submit your tip for the results in 10Mila 2011 here! Requested are tips for the Top 5 men and women teams, and intermediate results after the 1st leg and “Långa natten”.

Can Kalevan Rasti repeat their 2010 win in the mens class? In 2010 the margin down to Kristiansand OK was more than 6 minutes. Can Anton Sjökvist of Stora Tuna win the first leg again? Can IFK Lidingö take another win in the womens class? And is Ulricehamn ready for another first leg victory?

Leg lengths & key relay information

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10Mila Tip 2011 preview material

More 10Mila 2011 preview material:

Poll: Who wins 10Mila 2011 (mens class)

If you don’t feel like setting up a full tip, you can quickly tip the winner in the mens relay in the poll below:

Team composition for some of the top teams

Not all teams have published their 10MILA 2010 team yet – but here is the team composition of some of the top teams in the mens class (note – these team compositions may change – see also startlist men and startlist women):

1 Kalevan Rasti 1
1) Kiril  Nikolov 12,0 km
2) Miika  Hernelahti 13,0 km
3) Hannu  Airila 11,7 km
4) Jere  Pajunen 16,5 km
5) Adam   Chromy 8,4 km
6) Simo Martomaa 8,4 km
7) Jan   Prochazka 7,2 km
8) Philippe  Adamski 12,3 km
9) Fabian  Hertner 8,7 km
10) Thierry  Gueorgiou 16,5 / 12,3 km
2 Kristiansand OK 1
1) Audun  Bjerkreim Nilsen 12,0 km
2) Jostein  Andersen 13,0 km
3) Isak  Bergman 11,7 km
4) Rasmus  Djurhuus 16,5 km
5) Andreas  Høye 8,4 km
6) Vegard Danielsen 8,4 km
7) Martin  Hubmann 7,2 km
8) Mats  Dahlén 12,3 km
9) Daniel  Hubmann 8,7 km
10) Baptiste  Rollier 16,5 / 12,3 km
10 OK Hällen 1
1) Jan-Baptiste  Bourrin 12,0 km
2) Oskar  Carlborg 13,0 km
3) Benjamin  Lepoutre 11,7 km
4) Kristian  Algers 16,5 km
5) Jonas  Engström 8,4 km
6) Per Öberg 8,4 km
7) Tommy  Söderberg 7,2 km
8) Robbin  Kantarp 12,3 km
9) Peter  Öberg 8,7 km
10) Frédéric  Tranchad 16,5 / 12,3 km
14 Malungs OK Skogsmårdarna 1
1) Johan  Lindberg 12,0 km
2) Thomas   Carlsson 13,0 km
3) David   Andersson 11,7 km
4) Roman  Bondarenko 16,5 km
5) Martin  Hammarberg 8,4 km
6) Anders  Åkerman 8,4 km
7) Jonas   Bäckström 7,2 km
8) Erik  Rost 12,3 km
9) Julian  Dent 8,7 km
10) William  Lind 16,5 / 12,3 km
15 Vaajakosken Terä 1
1) Antti  Anttonen 12,0 km
2) Jouni  Kahelin 13,0 km
3) Timo  Joensuu 11,7 km
4) Jani  Lakanen 16,5 km
5) Lasse  Kautto 8,4 km
6) Aapo Summanen 8,4 km
7) Juha  Sorvisto 7,2 km
8) Pasi  Ikonen 12,3 km
9) Jonne  Lakanen 8,7 km
10) Anders  Nordberg 16,5 / 12,3 km
19 NTNUI 1
1) Felix  Breitschädel 12,0 km
2) Espen   Fiskum 13,0 km
3) Vegard  Ruttenborg 11,7 km
4) Knut Sveinung  Rekaa 16,5 km
5) Hans Petter  Mathisen 8,4 km
6) Øyvind Enger 8,4 km
7) Martin  Hoset 7,2 km
8) Thomas Natvig  Årstad 12,3 km
9) Anders   Einum 8,7 km
10) Olav Johannes  Deelstra 16,5 / 12,3 km
10Mila 2011 LiveBlog

Here you get the 10Mila LiveBlog. You’ll get polls during the race, expert commentary, help with your technical problems, and all you need to be on top on what is happening in the Swedish forest. The most fun way to experience 10Mila if you can’t run yourself!

If you are interested in being part of the LiveBlog team for a few hours (or all of the night) – moderating comments, uploading pictures and getting your comments published directly on the LiveBlog, please send an email to jan@kocbach.net saying a few words about yourself. It is a long night – so it is good to be a good team!

Use the hash-tags #10mila and #tiomila to get your Tweets directly into the LiveBlog.

10Mila video selection: Get in the 10Mila mood!

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 28 Apr 2011@5:00

trackinghighHere is a selection of 10Mila videos to get you in the right mood ahead of 10Mila. Relive the Slowmotion video from 10Mila 2008, the tracking highlights from 10Mila 2007, the 10Mila Petzl video from 2008 or some of the other great 10Mila content available on the Internet. Enjoy!

Do you know about more great 10Mila videos which can set the WorldofO.com readers in the right mood? Please add a comment below – and I’ll update the post accordingly… All videos are courtesy of either YouTube.com or Blip.TV.

Note! This is a repost from 2010 with some more videos added!

10Mila 2010 – The start

10Mila 2008 – Petzl video

10Mila 2010 – 3DRerun demo from decisive 3rd leg

10Mila 2008 – Slow Motion video (really sets you in the mood…)

10Mila 2007 – Tracking highlights

10Mila 2008 – Summary from WebTV broadcast

10Mila 2005


Thanks to comment below from Magnus

10Mila 1984

10Mila 1985

10Mila 1986

10Mila 1987

10Mila 1988

10Mila 1989(1)

10Mila 1989(2)

10Mila 1989(3)

10Mila 1990

10Mila 1992

10Mila 1993

10Mila 1995(1)

10Mila 1995(2)

10Mila 2002

10Mila 2003

10Mila 2006 – suggestion from Ivan Banov

Swedish Champs Sprint: Map, O-Route Challenge and Results

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 17 Apr 2011@18:00


Truly international results in the Swedish Champs sprint today. Victories went to Sweden – Jerker Lysell and Helena Jansson. Many non-Swedish runners were high up on the results today ; Scott Fraser (GBR) in 2nd, Øystein Kvaal Østerbø (NOR) in 4th, Graham Gristwood (GBR) in 5th, Frederic Tranchand (FRA) in 6th, Julian Dent (AUS) and Oleksandr Kratov (UKR) in 8th, Maja Alm (DEN) in 2nd, Eva Jurenikova (CZE) in 4th and Signe Søes (DEN) in 5th.

Read on for results, map and O-Route Challenge.

Results and map/GPS tracking

Results Men 21
1. Jerker Lysell Rehns BK 14:04 +00:00
2. Scott Fraser Södertälje-Nykvarn OF 14:13 +00:09
3. William Lind Malungs OK Skogsmårdarna 14:16 +00:12
4. Øystein Kvaal Østerbø IFK Lidingös Skid o OK 14:19 +00:15
5. Graham Gristwood Södertälje-Nykvarn OF 14:29 +00:25
6. Frédéric Tranchand OK Hällen 14:32 +00:28
7. Mattias Karlsson Emmaboda Verda OK 14:33 +00:29
8. Julian Dent Malungs OK Skogsmårdarna 14:35 +00:31
= Oleksandr Kratov OK Orion 14:35 +00:31
10. Erik Johansson Göteborg-Majorna OK 14:39 +00:35

Results Women 21
1. Helena Jansson Leksands OK 14:11 +00:00
2. Maja Alm Ulricehamns OK 14:39 +00:28
3. Annika Billstam IFK Lidingös Skid o OK 15:01 +00:50
4. Eva Jurenikova Domnarvets GOIF 15:08 +00:57
5. Signe Søes IFK Lidingös Skid o OK 15:10 +00:59
6. Lena Eliasson Domnarvets GOIF 15:25 +01:14
7. Lilian Forsgren OK Tisaren 15:37 +01:26
8. Lina Strand Göteborg-Majorna OK 15:40 +01:29
9. Elin Dahlstedt-Tysk Leksands OK 15:52 +01:41
10. Linnea Lidström OK Kolmården 16:03 +01:52

O-Route Challenge
About the O-Route Challenge: The Route to Christmas series has been very popular here at World of O the last years, and there have been many requests to offer some of these “O-puzzles” throughout the year. I have therefore decided to launch a similar series of “O-puzzles” throughout the rest of the year – at irregular intervals – named “O-Route Challenge”. I do not promise a lot of posts, but if time allows and I see interesting routes I will post them here.

The leg is as usually first provided without routes – you may take a look at it and think about how you would attack this leg (if the image is too small, you may click on it to get it larger).

Webroute

Next you can draw your own route using the ‘Webroute’ below. Think through how you would attack this leg, and draw the route you would have made. Some comments about why you would choose a certain route are always nice for the other readers.

Discussion

When I first saw this leg, I was quite sure that the left option would surely be the best – and watching the GPS tracking I was surprised that there was a quite even distribution of runners on the left and right variant. If you look at the color-route plot below, you can see that there was also a quite even distribution in fast times for runners taking the left and right option (green is fast, red is slow). Thus my conclusion is that left and right are almost equal. Taking a look at the dot-plot at the bottom of this article, I saw that the reason for the left option not being faster is that there are many curves on this route, whereas for the right route there is more straight running. Anything to add? Please add a comment below (I wasn’t there, so I might have missed some points here).

Note that times are off the GPS, so there might be some inaccuracies at the start/end of each route/track. Use the split times given only as “guidance”.

Figure: Routes are colored according to total time on the leg – green is fast, red is slow.

Figure: Direct comparison between routes. Points along the routes at which the runners have used the same time are connected – thus you can easily see where one route is faster/slower than another.

Interesting sprint leg: O-Route Challenge

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 17 Apr 2011@16:00

The Norwegian Craft Cup sprint had several interesting route choices. Here we present one of them as an O-Route Challenge. Which route would you have chosen?

About the O-Route Challenge: The Route to Christmas series has been very popular here at World of O the last years, and there have been many requests to offer some of these “O-puzzles” throughout the year. I have therefore decided to launch a similar series of “O-puzzles” throughout the rest of the year – at irregular intervals – named “O-Route Challenge”. I do not promise a lot of posts, but if time allows and I see interesting routes I will post them here.

The chosen leg is the third leg on the M21 course. The leg is as usually first provided without routes – you may take a look at it and think about how you would attack this leg (if the image is too small, you may click on it to get it larger).

Webroute

Next you can draw your own route using the ‘Webroute’ below. Think through how you would attack this leg, and draw the route you would have made. Some comments about why you would choose a certain route are always nice for the other readers.

Discussion

You can find the full GPS tracking and course from the event here. See also the womens course. But first take a look at the analysis below – and draw your route for two more legs further down on the page.

Below you see a graphical analysis of the leg based on the GPS-data of some of the fastest runners between these controls (click on an image to see a larger version of it). Note that for this particular leg the times are significantly off for the GPS due to inaccuracies at start/end of leg. However, focusing at the overall picture (see the color-routes below) and the direct comparison of the best GPS-runner on the left and direct routes (see below), it seems pretty clear that the left route – taking the control from behind – is significantly better than the direct route. What is always interesting is also that most of the top runners did recognize this, and chose the leftmost route. Note that I didn’t run this particular competition and I also didn’t study all split times in full detail – thus I might be wrong in my analysis. Please correct me in the comments if you disagree in my analysis.

Figure: Routes are colored according to total time on the leg – green is fast, red is slow.

Figure: Direct comparison between routes. Points along the routes at which the runners have used the same time are connected – thus you can easily see where one route is faster/slower than another.

Leg 16-17

Now you can take a look at a graphical analysis of the leg based on the GPS-data of some of the fastest runners between these controls (click on an image to see a larger version of it). Note that times are off the GPS, so there might be some inaccuracies at the start/end of each route/track.

Points along the routes at which the runners have used the same time are connected – thus you can easily see where one route is faster/slower than another.

Leg 13-14

Now you can take a look at a graphical analysis of the leg based on the GPS-data of some of the fastest runners between these controls (click on an image to see a larger version of it). Note that times are off the GPS, so there might be some inaccuracies at the start/end of each route/track.

Figure: Direct comparison between routes. Points along the routes at which the runners have used the same time are connected – thus you can easily see where one route is faster/slower than another.

Swiss Team having fun with Gueorgiou & VJ commercial

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 17 Apr 2011@10:00

No comments needed. First watch the two commercials for the new VJ shoes – then the Swiss Team video starring Baptiste Rollier. Camera man: Martin Hubmann.

Update: Comment from Thierry Gueorgiou: “- I like this one :)”

… I guess VJ sends big thanks to the Swiss Team for some extra publicity for their new shoes…

Night-o Route Challenge! Where would you run?

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 16 Apr 2011@10:00

The Norwegian Craft Cup Night and the Swedish Champs night gave the runners some interesting challenges. Where would you choose to run on the first leg? This is O-Route Challenge: Part 3 2011.

About the O-Route Challenge: The Route to Christmas series has been very popular here at World of O the last years, and there have been many requests to offer some of these “O-puzzles” throughout the year. I have therefore decided to launch a similar series of “O-puzzles” throughout the rest of the year – at irregular intervals – named “O-Route Challenge”. I do not promise a lot of posts, but if time allows and I see interesting routes I will post them here.

The leg is as usually first provided without routes – you may take a look at it and think about how you would attack this leg (if the image is too small, you may click on it to get it larger). Remember that this is a night orienteering relay – with a lot of snow in the forest!

Webroute

Next you can draw your own route using the ‘Webroute’ below. Some comments about why you would choose a certain route are always nice for the other readers.

Now you can take a look at a graphical analysis of the leg based on the GPS-data (click on an image to see a larger version of it).

  • The first figure shows comparison of two different routes – the direct route and the route around to the right. As you can see, the route around to the right is definitely faster – the first part of the leg taking longer on the direct route.
  • By studying the second figure – which shows the pace of the two runners – you can see that for the direct route the speed is also slower for the last part into the control, because one do not run with the same confidence as when running the route around the route.
  • The third figure shows the routes of all tracked runners. The routes are colored in such a way that the fastest routes are green – the slowest are red. As you can see, there were quite a few mistakes on this leg – especially for runners choosing a direct variant. Knowing how different this terrain is at night, it is puzzling to notice how few take the rightmost route around the road.

Notice that the two top runners – Carl Waaler Kaas and Håvard Lucasen – both know that night orienteering is all about control – both taking the rightmost route.

Note that times are off the GPS, so there might be some inaccuracies at the start/end of each route/track.


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Complete map

The complete map is available here in omaps.worldofo.com. The results are available here.

Proof: This was really difficult!

Take a look at Anders “King of the Night” Nordberg’s route in part of the course. Everybody could make mistakes in this terrain…

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Swedish Champs night

To finish off, here is a webroute from the first leg in the Swedish Champs night. Very different challenges – but still very tricky. This is what makes the sport of orienteering so fun.

Next you can draw your own route using the ‘Webroute’ below. Some comments about why you would choose a certain route are always nice for the other readers.

The analysis for this one I leave to our Swedish reader….? See full GPS tracking here.

The fun starts tonight: 2 x GPS tracking from Night-o!

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 15 Apr 2011@5:00

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What a night this is going to be for orienteering fans! The GPS tracking season kicks off tonight with both the Swedish Championships in night-orienteering and the replacement race for the Norwegian Championships in night-orienteering (downgraded to Craft Cup due to snow in terrain). And guess what? Both races are with individual start – just what the biggest orienteering fans out there are after…

Norway: O-technically very demanding

Especially the Norwegian Craft Cup race in the Larvik area (see Larvik map search in omaps.worldofo.com) is going to be tough. – The terrain must be described as o-technically very demanding for night orienteering, can be read in the PM for the race. – The runnability is good in some areas, but is generally bad due to vegetation and cliffs/stony ground. Winning time is predicted to be 55 minutes for 6.6 km.

Who can beat Anders Nordberg in this kind of terrain? Start is from 21:30 CET – and GPS tracking is announced to start from 23:00 CET.

Sweden: Compass required

The Swedish Champs in night-orienteering and sprint orienteering are held in Gotland this weekend. Gotland (see map examples) is known for quite flat terrain with little height variation and quite few details. Thus compass navigation is key to success.

The last years the Swedish Champs night-orienteering have been a fight between Oleksandr Kratov and Peter Öberg in the mens class. Kratov taking the victory with 2 minutes ahead of Öberg in 2010 (map with GPS tracking) – and Öberg winning ahead of Kratov in 2009 (see map including WebRoute here). Will Kratov take another victory in 2011? Öberg has been injured, but is steadily getting better…

Tracking is announced to start at 22:00 CET.

Even more GPS Tracking this weekend

Here is the full list for this weekend

Thanks to Pekka Varis/GPSseuranta for information about races with GPS Tracking this weekend

Predict the Top 3

Guessing the top 3 is not easy in such tough night races at the start of the season, but I’ll still take the chance.

Men Norway
1. Anders Nordberg
2. Håvard Lucasen
3. Carl Waaler Kaas

Women Norway
1. Heidi Bagstevold
2. Bodil Holmström
3.  Ida Bjørgul

Men Sweden
1. Oleksandr Kratov
2. Jonn Are Myhren
3. Peter Öberg

Women Sweden
1. Linnea Gustafsson
2. Helena Jansson
3. Annika Billstam

Who do you think are the strongest night orienteers in Norway and/or Sweden tonight?

Links to all the action

Norwegian Craft Cup race night:

Swedish Champs night:

Garmin Forerunner 610: New favourite GPS watch?

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 12 Apr 2011@14:00

forerunner610Garmin today released a new Forerunner watch which will probably be the favourite choice for orienteers for o-technical analysis. The 610 will be better than the 405/410/310 XT for o-technical analysis due to reintroduction of the 1-second recording mode. Also the new touchscreen technology seems to be better than the touch bezel of the Forerunner 405/410.

- In the case of the FR610, it all seemed to flow pretty well

The 405/410/310 XT watches do only have a “smart recording mode” were GPS position is stored every 3-6 seconds on average, whereas the good old Forerunner 305/205 has a 1-second recording mode which made it a favourite among many orienteers. 1 second recording interval makes it possible to do more accurate analysis as position is sampled every second, and is therefore a requested feature among top orienteers. The new Forerunner 610 gives you the nice ANT+ technology and a slimmer watch – and you still get the 1 second recording interval.

See also: GPS Analysis for Orienteering: All the Basics!

Touch screen instead of touch bezel

Another change for the Forerunner 610 compared to the 405/410/310 XT is a new touchscreen. This touchscreen technology is said to be far better than the touch bezel of the 405/410 – and it should also work very well with gloves/in rain. It remains to be seen how well the touchscreen works for orienteering activities, but this sure looks promising. Here is what DC Rainmaker says about the touch screen:

- These screens are unlike your typical phone touch screen though, and are designed to handle everything from rain to gloves. [...] Finally, last but not least is how water affects it. This evening during my run in the 84*F weather I got plenty soaked, much of that water ending up on the FR610. In general it didn’t affect use of the watch. I also tried it out in the shower without any problems navigating either. All in all I found the touch screen to generally work as expected. While one can certainly debate the merit of having a touch screen at all, I didn’t find it to detract from the watch. Previously I found the older touch bezel design of the FR405/FR410 to take away from the watch’s functionality. In the case of the FR610, it all seemed to flow pretty well.
GPS analysis for orienteering: The basics

Tommorrow I will give an an overview over different GPS units in a post about the basics of GPS analysis for orienteering over at o-training.net – discussing a bit more about the differences between the different Garmin watches as well.

Below you see a comparison of the Garmin Forerunner 610 with other Garmin watches (image from DC Rainmaker). Looking from left to right, the watches are the FR60, FR110 (FR210 is identical body), FR405 (FR410 is identical body), FR610 and finally the FR310XT.
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Update about compass interaction: No problem according to this entry at Attackpoint by user ceeej:

[...] I can report that the magnetic aspect is very minimal. The watch had to be placed right next to my compass to have an effect. I think only the contacts of the watch are magnetized whereas the whole of the charging cradle is. As I wear my watch on the opposite arm I’m not too worried about it but I’d probably recommend testing with your own compass if you use the same arm.

I like the touch screen, it is much better than the bezel on the 405 and it really does work with gloves on which means the 610 is actually practical for cycling with. However, the ‘lock’ for the screen can not be turned on like on the 405, it comes on after a period of inactivity so wouldn’t be on if you were recording an orienteering run. Having said that the touch you have to give the screen is fairly firm, I haven’t managed to set it off with clothing yet which is what the 405 bezel used to do, will report back after I’ve done some Orienteering with it.

O-Route Challenge: Part 2 2011

Posted by Jan Kocbach, 10 Apr 2011@18:00

The second part of the O-Route Challenge 2011 takes us to a night-orienteering relay in snow-filled forests in Finland – the Kevätyönviesti Night-O relay in Turku. With 30-50 cm snow in the terrain, this was a tough relay with special considerations to be done when choosing your route. The chosen leg is from the 4th leg of the relay.

About the O-Route Challenge: The Route to Christmas series has been very popular here at World of O the last years, and there have been many requests to offer some of these “O-puzzles” throughout the year. I have therefore decided to launch a similar series of “O-puzzles” throughout the rest of the year – at irregular intervals – named “O-Route Challenge”. I do not promise a lot of posts, but if time allows and I see interesting routes I will post them here.

The leg is as usually first provided without routes – you may take a look at it and think about how you would attack this leg (if the image is too small, you may click on it to get it larger). Remember that this is a night orienteering relay – with a lot of snow in the forest!

Webroute

Next you can draw your own route using the ‘Webroute’ below. Some comments about why you would choose a certain route are always nice for the other readers.

Now you can take a look at a graphical analysis of the leg based on the GPS-data of some of the fastest teams between these controls (click on an image to see a larger version of it). The first shows the fastest routes on individual routes, the second shows a comparison of the two fastest routes, and the third gives a minimum pace analysis. Note that times are off the GPS, so there might be some inaccuracies at the start/end of each route/track.

Complete map

The complete map is available here in omaps.worldofo.com. The results are available here.

Discussion

Based on the GPS data, it looks like due to all the snow in the terrain, the best approach for this leg was to take the long left option along the road. It is interesting to see how much faster it was to run all the way around – it probably surprised some of the runners as well. Looking at the pace data, one can see that for the direct route, the first part of the marsh is actually quite fast – it is the second part of the marsh which makes this alternative slower.